I really appreciate the web master for going through all of this trouble keeping the BTW memories alive. I saw pictures of my mother and father and aunts and uncles when they were young and I enjoyed every moment looking down memory lane.
Thank you,
L. Woods
quote:Originally posted by Hornet: If you have feedback or ideas about the forums, please post them here.
Posts: 4 | Location: Lewisville,TX | Registered: Sun February 22 2004
Hi L. Woods, you can thank Robert Hicks, BTW Class of '61, for all those great photos and yearbooks that have been scanned at his website, http://geocities.com/bookert1961/
Obviously a lot of work and much appreciated by many people.
Posts: 180 | Location: on the beach in warm, sunny SC | Registered: Sun September 14 2003
Hey Dan great job. I just found this site. Would like anyone who remembers me to say hi! This is sooooo not classmates. com! I love it keep up the good work. I went to BTW my Junior & Senior year ('77 - '79). Some people might remember me from Penn & Monroe. I own a jewelry store now. Everybody knows diamonds are a girls best friend. That certainly holds true for me. In fact I don't know what I'd do without them. I went on to be a Graduate Gemologists some years later after HS. I'm one of the few fortunates who really gets to do what I love doing. I think going to BTW got me started on the path of doing something off the beathen path. Well I've been cruising around on this site for hours now I'm addicted. I have missed all the reunions but I'm back in Tulsa area now & know where to find info on them so maybe I can make the 30 year. That would be awesome! For now I gotta go!!!! But I'll be back....
Does anyone know where Dwight D Sanders from the class of 68 is, he was in Dallas Texas, would like to know if he is alive, because we heared he wasn't, what about a friend of his first name Ron, had a daughter name Bernadette probaly still lives in Tulsa, worked for the telephone company there
Originally posted by Leslie Guinan: Hey Dan great job. I just found this site. Would like anyone who remembers me to say hi! This is sooooo not classmates. com! I love it keep up the good work. I went to BTW my Junior & Senior year ('77 - '79). Some people might remember me from Penn & Monroe. I own a jewelry store now. Everybody knows diamonds are a girls best friend. That certainly holds true for me. In fact I don't know what I'd do without them. I went on to be a Graduate Gemologists some years later after HS. I'm one of the few fortunates who really gets to do what I love doing. I think going to BTW got me started on the path of doing something off the beathen path. Well I've been cruising around on this site for hours now I'm addicted. I have missed all the reunions but I'm back in Tulsa area now & know where to find info on them so maybe I can make the 30 year. That would be awesome! For now I gotta go!!!! But I'll be back....
You went to James Monroe? I did too but sad to say I can't put a face to the name...sowwy. I don't know about those thugs from Penn, there were quite a few troublemakers coming from that school.
I fought Sugar Ray (Robinson) so many times, it's a wonder I don't have diabetes. -- Jake LaMotta
Posts: 344 | Location: Back on Tulsey time! | Registered: Sun September 14 2003
Hello! BTW ! Alumni !! Angie Turnbo-Morris here with some very important news... I have been an art teacher for 24yrs. at Tulsa Schools and Sapulpa. Just recently I found out about an art opening at BTW. I tried and tried to get an interview with the principal, Dr. Debi Boyles. I e-mailed her and sent my resume'. Still no contact. She refused to give me the time of day!!! I found out that she gave the job to a teacher from Broken Arrow Schools. Dr. Boyles has no regard for alumni obviously so I wanted to let BTW alumni know how she operates. Teaching at my alma mater would have been a dream come true. Thanks to Dr. Boyles my dream will not come true. Good luck to the rest of you!! Angi Turnbo-Morris
Hey Angie, It's not the old BTW anymore, everything is political, from getting in to the school as a student,and the hiring of faculty members. They want to keep as much tradition out of the high school as possible including alums and important people who help make the school what it was.I had an opportunity to work there for 16 years as a coach and you could see the difference every year of how it was changing. After coming back to visit the school the first year the new building was opened, I was told that I could not come and view the building without an appointment. And I had to sign in at a security guard post before even entering the building. If it weren't for Coach McGee, the A.D. at the time I would have had to go through a lot of red tape just to see the school. So don't feel bad!
George, I just got done reading your e mail, and I'm sickened about how alums from Booker T. Washington can't even come visit the new school. I attended the "T" in the late 80's, and let me tell you there was a lot of pride at that school because we were all HORNETS. I graduated in 1990, but it was the students who attended before us all that started the beginning of having pride in being a HORNET. I think that Debi Boyles should've gone with David Sawyer when he left, and it's also a shame that Angie didn't even get a call or response from the principal after submitting her resume'. I'm not able to go to any of the games that BTW has, but I've never forgotten where I came from. I will say this that ONCE YOUR A HORNET, YOU'RE ALWAYS A HORNET. And that's something that Debi Boyles can't take from those of us who still love Booker T. Washington. Angie if you happen to read this, I would complain to the school board about Debi Boyles, and I wouldn't give up on trying to obtain a position at what I feel is the greatest high school in the City of Tulsa. Don't give up Angie. GO HORNETS.
Hey! George and David, Thanks for responding. Thought I was the only one getting the shaft from Dr. Boyles. I attended BTW 1973-1975. The first year it became a magnet school. The top human resource people even knew the situation and let Dr. Boyles have her way. TPS does a very lousy job of hiring and evaluating principals. I've taught in Tulsa for 16 yrs. now and have had 5 lousy principals. Can't believe you are treated like a terrorist! Alumni beware!! Angie Turnbo-Morris
Hey Angie, I'm sorry that the service center is doing nothing to help you. Maybe you should go to Channel 2 or Fox 23 with the practices of the Tulsa Public Schools resource department. It's no wonder so many college students who graduate from Langston, OU, or OSU end up leaving Oklahoma to teach in other states. My mom was a teacher and her last principal didn't give her any respect after my brother passed away. My dad was a elementary school principal, but the difference between my dad and Mrs. Boyles is that he treated his teachers with respect. If my dad was principal at Booker T. Washington, I have no doubt that he would hire you to teach at the HORNET HIVE. Because he respected those who graduated and wanted to come back and teach at the high school they went to. I'm glad that I chose a career in law enforcement, because there's no way I would work for the Tulsa Public School system. The way I see it Debi Boyles is just like the current selected President in the White House. Both of them can't be trusted. This is going off the topic, but I will always believe that George Bush cheated his way into the White House, and look at where our U.S. Troops are now. In Iraq where we shouldn't be.
Wow, sorry, but that's a cop out if I've ever heard one, Angie. Why are you putting the responsibility for your dreams in the hands of someone other than yourself?
Based only on what I've seen of your attitude here in two posts - I wouldn't hire you either. Actually, to be honest, I wouldn't even see you for an interview.
I also don't think that any BTW alum should feel they're due any favoritism with regards to teaching positions at the school. Of course, I think alumni status would be one of many things to consider. But if - in the eyes of the people who are doing the hiring - they feel that someone from Broken Arrow is simply more qualified for the job, then that teacher gets the job.
I'm also really surprised that, you, a teacher - no less - from the Tulsa Public School system - would come on a public forum like this and bash the principal of BTW. I dunno about others, but I find that terribly unprofessional and lacking in character.
Posts: 180 | Location: on the beach in warm, sunny SC | Registered: Sun September 14 2003
Now what George is talking about is another matter - and fair enough. But we can see security policies and practices at schools all over the US have gotten tighter since incidents such as Columbine and 9/11. Sort of the age we live in right now.
I can also understand that a high school with a brand new building could have even stricter policies. I'm sure it's taken, and will continue to take, a lot of time - on the order of several years - and policy tweaking until the faculty and students really feel settled in. I can't blame the policy makers at the current school for airing on the side of caution. And I don't think that needing to make an appointment and signing in with a security guard sounds all that severe.
I went to BTW from the fall of '75 until the spring of '79, and I don't think, even back then, that alumni could just waltz into the school and walk through the halls without some kind of appointment and checking in at the office. I'm not sure, but I think that's probably been the policy for most K-12 schools in the US for many years.
Posts: 180 | Location: on the beach in warm, sunny SC | Registered: Sun September 14 2003
Well, Dan you have your opinion about how you feel about the policies of the school and what the alumni should and shouldn't have, but just like you stated you walked the halls of BTW from '75 to '79, but I have walked the halls since I was a little kid with my aunts, uncles,and cousins, until the days from '79 to '82 when I walked them myself. Really, the way you came on this formum makes me think that you were one of those people that came to BTW because you didn't want to go to your home school. How do you know Angie was not qualified, do you know her credentals? Maybe I don't either,but for someone to come on and express their feelings about a situation clearly states that she thinks shes qualified for a shot at the position. She did not state that she was supposed to be given the position, but merely a interview that she thought she deserved. You know the world is not a fair place, many people get jobs not by qualifications, but by who they know. As a BTW alum I stand by all my family members, as I know alumni from way way back. My mother and father, grandma, and grand pa all attended BTW. There was no threat of Columbine then, even though it can happen. A new building does not change the student body, what do they have to get used to?Futhermore, I worked at the school for 16yrs so after they build a new school I have to go through all this red tape.I'm not just an alumi that just wants to waltz through the halls. I think it was done to piss off the community. The way they were screening students for acception to the school was bias, and they wanted to make sure they kept the real alumni from barging into the school. See there are true alumni and those that just attended the school. An appointment and signing in at a security desk is not that severe, but did they do it for all? I don't think so. And that's my point.
George, I think addressing the policies for alumni admission to the current school building is an excellent topic for these forums.
Please start a topic in the Off-Topic Discussions forum here, and post your experiences with getting admission to the building and anything you know about the specific policies.
I, and I'm sure other alumni, would like more information on the policies, as well as a place to discuss them. Perhaps - if some feel the policies are too strict - we might be able to initiate some changes to lessen some of the red tape.
Posts: 180 | Location: on the beach in warm, sunny SC | Registered: Sun September 14 2003
Dear Dan, Boy, you seem to know everything, hum....do you know me? No, I don't think so. I know the teacher who got the job at BTW that should have been mine. The teacher who was hired is from another school district. So there's one for loyalty for the TPS system, Another is that I have more experience in teaching. I graduated with this teacher from TU aND SHE DID NOT EVEN WANT TO TEACH SO SHE GOT A DEGREE IN PRINTMAKING. She had to go back to school to get a teaching degree. Three, I have taught a very diverse group of students and she has not. And four, I am Advanced Placement certified. The position was for an AP teacher. Which I am. I have been evaluated for 16 yrs. at TPS and have only excellent evaluations all 16 yrs. Now tell me... is it who you know or what you know???!!!!!I graduated from BTW in 1975, don't know if I know you, but do not think I want to know you. Angie
Hi! George! Thanks for your continued support! Don't think Dan understands the situation. I too, am a George W. Bush hater. Yes, that word says a lot. He has gotten this country in such a mess!!!! God help us!!! God help all those over seas, cause the president does not give a damn for them. George is using the lower class to fight his "family" battle. How sad that he cannot find the real culprit for 9/11. Oh, that's right , he let all Osoma Ben landin's relatives leave the US right after 9/11 happened. Hummm...what's wrong with this picture???!!! You take care , George...Angie
I've visited BTW three times and never had any problem getting in. You check in with the guard and show ID and then you can see the school.
They may be stricter than other schools, or most definitely more so than when we went to school but rightfully so IMO, there a lot of pedophiles and other people who are up to no good.
One can visit the school, there is even staff to give you a tour. But sometimes these people are busy and cannot do that...
As for the politics, well, that's true at any school and in any school district and with regards to getting "ahead" in life. The older you become the more you understand that who you know is often more important than what you know. One can either accept that or be a rebel or whatever. My parents always said life isn't fair...so do what you can and keep at it.
I know that BTW does have some alumni on staff but I'm not sure that it would be a good thing if all the teachers were alums...
That's my two cents.
I fought Sugar Ray (Robinson) so many times, it's a wonder I don't have diabetes. -- Jake LaMotta
Posts: 344 | Location: Back on Tulsey time! | Registered: Sun September 14 2003
Hey! Bobby d, glad to hear from you ! BTW has been doing well on the football field! And I am proud! Don't care for the administrators tho.. they are not operating an equal opportunity establishment. Just wanted alumni to know what Dr. Boyles is all about. She has no regard for doing her job democratically. She did not allow anyone else to even interview for the teaching position that she filled in art! That's why I'm so ticked!!!! Dr. Boyles did not allow the proper procedures to take place. That's what so unconstitutional!!!!! Just wanted the alumni to know. Take care, Angie Turnbo-Morris